Year: 2025

To expand on the ‘how time is still there’ document.

We first imagine that the universe we are in has a smallest part, just under the size of the plank length which is the smallest division possible. This is the ‘resolution’ of our universe as anything smaller than that cannot be directly ‘seen’, however the outcome of a probability field(s) in the zone which is smaller than the plank length can be determined by the state of that quanta at it’s current time. That is to say we are imagining that our universe can only get so small, and that there is a unit which exists just below that size which we cannot probe, only measure. At this scale things either are, or are not. And everything in the universe is created out of this binary-ness. All fields are created due to the size and shape and time frame of these possible choices and the smaller fields create larger fields and mass that we call home.

Next we imagine that it is possible to view a 3D world / universe completely on a 2D screen. This metaphorical screen you can imagine like a TV monitor that can zoom in and out at all scales and view anything, from any angle, anywhere in the entire universe. The screen looks like you’re viewing one side of a sphere. When viewing this screen you see the target, what you are looking at, in the center of the screen. The things to the side of your target are further away and curved, everything exists within the edges of the screen if you scroll to that thing.

We further imagine that such an ability exists in the greater-universes to view a 2D screen as a 1D line which we will call the Z axis We are then going to take our 3D universe, display it’s total contents on a 2D layer, then translate that into a one dimensional line. Each quanta, or smallest particle which is just below the limit of impossibility, which we can call a modulation unit, perturbation block, deciding quanta, manipulation point, decision dot, or maybe more accurately time-space atom. Every time space atom or TSA exists both as time in one dimension and space in an orthogonal dimension. We will take every TSA in our universe and display it in a line. The TSAs in the line are arranged in a way which can be directly translated to view our universe through the 2 dimensional conversions.

You can see any thing in the entire universe on the metaphorical screen and that item is at the center of the screen, what you doing at that point is focusing your attention on a single TSA and setting it to zero (0) in your observation. In the 1D line above, which represents all of the universe as we know it, each TSA is assigned a place on the line.

Each TSA is either one way which we will call Left or the other way which we will call Right. We cannot see any difference in the TSA beyond if it interacts like it is Left or if it is Right. As many TSAs are near each other in 3D space the interaction of the TSAs which are Left vs Right creates the fields that we understand and in turn create the mass as we know it through the strong nuclear force.

So we have this 1D line, the Z-axis, of all things in the universe where each TSA, or smallest possible piece of the universe, is in an order and that order can be translated in a way that makes it possible for a 3D universe like ours to be represented perfectly. Each number in the number line has a binary representation, a 1/0; on/off; left/right; etc. This creates a Complex Numberline where each entire universe can be captured by the numbers from infinity to positive infinity and their corresponding values. And different Complex Numberlines (CNs) will translate to different universes.

Let’s imagine a number line like we are used to. With now being 0 and the past being negative time numbers and positive side of the X axis being future. Or at least past to the left and future to the right.

Events happen in a linear fashion across the time line. We want to look at the Y axis on this timeline graph by examining each possibility in the entire universe.

On this timeline each whole number is a plank second, or just below it. For each t# on the CN t each TSA is in one of two states. At the next time period t#+1 the CN duplicates an infinite number of times, in each of these CNs there is only one number which has changed state. This new iteration of the CN is placed on the Y axis of the timeline.

Now we have an X, Y, and Z axis for spacetime. We here want to imagine that we have a time line going left to right on the X axis, with the possible iterations of that time line going up and down on the Y axis, and that this is happening separately for each of the smallest possible units in the universe which we call TSAs, and that in our timeline graph each of those TSAs is represented by a spot on the Z axis. We want to turn our view so that we are viewing one moment in time (as a slice we are viewing on a flat screen), across all the possibilities (up and down), and for each TSA (left and right). As time goes on there is a new slice that goes on the top of the one we were looking at. But since there is an infinite number of new universes created from each TSA the size of the graph grows dramatically. We then zoom out at the same rate, so that when we focus on one TSA over time it stays the same size in our view.

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The state of this unit of space will influence all its neighbors.

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When we view any TSA we are viewing the entire universe head on on the half sphere, and see around it the TSAs which are next to it on the number line, -do we? We don’t actually know how the 2D to 1D visualization would work so that may not be true

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TSAs don’t have to stay in the Z axis time line where they were, they can move around via math. So time may change across different locations in the line depending on which line you have and even what time it is within that line. The math from the interactions of each TSA with every other TSA in their 2D plane and also the 3D space made of their surrounding planes can help determine the outcome of the probability matrix which leads to the time flower.

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What about when you zoom your focus out and observe a molecule or complex interaction made of a great many TSAs?

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When you observe any TSA, that is point in the universe your focus is on, then that point is set to 0 in you calculation. Each point always sets itself to 0 in it’s own regard, the numbers of the TSA near it calculated differently and individually for each TSA. The numbers exists as these 1D lines and since they go on forever and each TSA has it’s own number line where it is 0 then is math the most pure form of the universes existence, and math has rules; so there could be entire other probability trees on ever growing spheres based on the end fate of this universe which may be able to be affected by life in that universe. Maybe there is a whole new universe for each TSA at each time scale where we determine if it’s one way or the other way and that

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Do negative numbers on the 1D number line mean there is a negative universe where matter and anti matter are switched, which exists simultaneously with our own at all times?

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Depending on which number (f) is represented by which value we can translate into different representations of

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Each TSA has their own CN where that specific TSA is set to 0, and are most tangent to the time flower half sphere

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By setting any of the infinite numbed TSAs to zero in our observation we have the CN change based on the relative impact of each neighboring TSA, that is, each other number on the number line. And as there are infinite numbers there are also infinite universes and they are represented by the infinite CNs

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‘Now’ is set to 0 in the time line.

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We want to plot the possibility of everything from a starting time, t0, and I mean to plot the possibility of every possible iteration in the entire universe. We will then represent all the possibilities of everything in the universe as a 2D layer on the viewing half sphere, and at each time t+1 etc we will put the new layer as close as possible to the layer before and so on. Over time this builds a 3D half sphere, where it’s not just which area you turn to across the surface, but also how deep you zoom in or out and into which part. This hyperspace may have living beings and ecosystems beyond our understanding or even imagination, including parasites and potential helpers.

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A side effect of this is that each unit in timespace, the time space atom, TSA has it’s own time coefficient that changes depending on where it is in space and where it is being observed from. Any calculation of mass of any object should incorporate the integral of the time coefficient of that mass (collection of TSAs) over the time period in question.

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We can only make determinations as to the state of things every plank second, and anything that happened between that time, if anything, cannot ever be probed by us beyond our observation of the state of things before and after the time of this plank second

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I wonder if there is a relativity type effect of number assigned to TSAs beyond their own light cones.

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For each TSA set to 0 we will copy the CN and change the Left/Right value of one single number in the infinite CN. Or would we only change the CN value of every iteration of the number line where each numbered particle is set to 0?

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So we can see the probability outcome of any time TSA which expands (a bigger infinity) to the second power on the Y axis of the spacetime continuum.

The two copies of the universe split apart as now their CNs are one number off. Each of these universes, as that is what they are, different universes where one single quanta of the smallest possible amount has changed, goes on to the future to see what happens next. So at every possible moment we are creating an infinite number of new universes for every possible change across the entire universe.

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and a way to represent the expansion of the time flower.

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I think that these universes might merged back together, with the parts that are the same sticking and being stronger, where the skinny parts of low probability that branch off and have less support from matching and other universes are more likley to die out

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1)

‘4-Dimensional beings could have 3-dimensional eye receptors, except the 3-d dimension here is our 4th dimension’

‘Think of us, we have corneas that light passes through to get to the retinas where the light is sensed. Both these objects are 2-d objects, folded into 3-dimensions (the spherical eye ball).

Now think of flatlander Steve, to live in a perfectly flat 2-dimensional world steve only needs to see what is in his world, it is not evolutionary favorable to expend energy to evolve and maintain organs that see a 3rd dimension here because Steve can’t interact with it and it’s a waste of energy. Now Steve needs to see in his own world, light coming from other plains is extraneous and unnecessary if not downright unhelpful for Steve to be seeing or understanding. To deal with this Steve has eyes that are 2-dimensional, like little circles with a tiny hole in front. Only light that comes through the hole and lands on the back is recognized in Steve’s brain. Now if Steve were to somehow bend him head upwards into a 3rd dimension he might not be able to understand what he was seeing, because the 2D slices of our or anther 3D world don’t make sense to him. He would have to focus on remembering the different images then ‘stitch’ them together in his memory to get a 3D view. This action itself would likely need some sort of impetus from a 3rd dimension to push him or his head or his eyes ‘up’ or ‘down’ which are terms Steve have no familiarity about in his day to day life.

When you compare Steve’s eyes to our they aren’t too dissimilar; the eye different is mostly another dimension added to it. Except it’s the dimension that makes a difference in the daily survival of the now 3-D being. Our brains can use one eye to represent the 3D world and 2 eyes to focus more clearly on parts of the 3D world.

Now expand this into the next dimension. The 4D being has eyes that are 3D receptors and 3D pupils, wrapped into a 4D shape. In this case, the 4th dimension is a fourth spatial dimension with directions called ‘ana’ and ‘katana’. These directions are orthogonal to our dimension, or at ‘right angles’ similar to how the 3D world and the 2D world are separated by a dimension at right angles to the 2D world. Right now I think these two directions are directly ‘outside’ and ‘inside’ of our own, like a universe of nesting dolls.

Let us imagine how a person or even a sphere could enter into flatland at any location they wanted, but were always a fixed relationship to that universe. The flatlander universe if before them, they can push their finger or spherical body into the flatland and intersect it. To the eyes of Steve this circle being appeared very small then in an unbelievable quickness because very large.

Though they can pass through flatland, or to the experience of Steve appear and disappear in it, they can’t get bigger or smaller, they have a fixed size in all dimensions the way we do. Their 4D bodies might extend through multiple 3D universes are the same time, but they would be in roughly the same location within them when they were, and by moving through the 4th dimension, which would be the one evolutionary favorable for a 4D being to be able to move through, they could appear or disappear at any location in a 3D universe

Well the 2D retinas extend ana and katana into the 4th dimension, not our third dimension as that wouldn’t be helpful. The 4D being exists through multiple 3D planes concurrently and they need to be able to ‘see’ there as well. Like we need to navigate 3 dimensions they need to do so in 4. there is the question of how time translates into a higher dimension and if they are the same or vastly different.

When a 4D being that can enter a 3D world choses to do so they can extended many of the same body part into the same 4D layer, appeared as a multi armed or multi eyed being

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About that

I’ve an explanation for how this could be possible by extrapolating our world from a lower dimension.

Imagine flatland, Ken lives there and is a circle. Flatland is a 2D slice of 3D space, but to create 3D space many 2D slices need to be added on top of each other. Imagine a cube, flatland is one slice or even edge of the cube. Ken is a circle in his flatland but a sphere in the cube.
Now if you were to take the 2D slice that is immediately next to the one Ken lives in you would get a slice of the sphere that is Ken, that would be very similar but slightly different than the circle version of ken that existed in his own flat land. Now take more slices, greater changes in Ken and his world.
Now rotate the slice through the sphere, you’re getting elements from a multitude of the other Kens we just saw. What is the flatland is a 2D plate that is folded throughout the 3D space?

There could be a bug version of all of us

2)

Think of us, we have corneas that light passes through to get to the retinas where the light is sensed. Both these objects are 2-d objects, folded into 3-dimensions (the spherical eye ball).

Now think of flatlander Steve, to live in a perfectly flat 2-dimensional world steve only needs to see what is in his world, it is not evolutionary favorable to expend energy to evolve and maintain organs that see a 3rd dimension here because Steve can’t interact with it and it’s a waste of energy. Now Steve needs to see in his own world, light coming from other plains is extraneous and unnecessary if not downright unhelpful for Steve to be seeing or understanding. To deal with this Steve has eyes that are 2-dimensional, like little circles with a tiny hole in front. Only light that comes through the hole and lands on the back is recognized in Steve’s brain. Now if Steve were to somehow bend him head upwards into a 3rd dimension he might not be able to understand what he was seeing, because the 2D slices of our or anther 3D world don’t make sense to him. He would have to focus on remembering the different images then ‘stitch’ them together in his memory to get a 3D view. This action itself would likely need some sort of impetus from a 3rd dimension to push him or his head or his eyes ‘up’ or ‘down’ which are terms Steve have no familiarity about in his day to day life.

When you compare Steve’s eyes to our they aren’t too dissimilar; the eye different is mostly another dimension added to it. Except it’s the dimension that makes a difference in the daily survival of the now 3-D being. Our brains can use one eye to represent the 3D world and 2 eyes to focus more clearly on parts of the 3D world.

Now expand this into the next dimension. The 4D being has eyes that are 3D receptors and 3D pupils, wrapped into a 4D shape. In this case, the 4th dimension is a fourth spatial dimension with directions called ‘ana’ and ‘katana’. These directions are orthogonal to our dimension, or at ‘right angles’ similar to how the 3D world and the 2D world are separated by a dimension at right angles to the 2D world. Right now I think these two directions are directly ‘outside’ and ‘inside’ of our own, like a universe of nesting dolls.

Let us imagine how a person or even a sphere could enter into flatland at any location they wanted, but were always a fixed relationship to that universe. The flatlander universe if before them, they can push their finger or spherical body into the flatland and intersect it. To the eyes of Steve this circle being appeared very small then in an unbelievable quickness because very large.

Though they can pass through flatland, or to the experience of Steve appear and disappear in it, they can’t get bigger or smaller, they have a fixed size in all dimensions the way we do. Their 4D bodies might extend through multiple 3D universes are the same time, but they would be in roughly the same location within them when they were, and by moving through the 4th dimension, which would be the one evolutionary favorable for a 4D being to be able to move through, they could appear or disappear at any location in a 3D universe

Well the 2D retinas extend ana and katana into the 4th dimension, not our third dimension as that wouldn’t be helpful. The 4D being exists through multiple 3D planes concurrently and they need to be able to ‘see’ there as well. Like we need to navigate 3 dimensions they need to do so in 4. there is the question of how time translates into a higher dimension and if they are the same or vastly different.

When a 4D being that can enter a 3D world choses to do so they can extended many of the same body part into the same 4D layer, appeared as a multi armed or multi eyed being

3)

4)

I wrote this last time I saw one of these multieye images; Just what a 4-dimensional creature would look like pushing all it’s eyes into our single 3-D world at once.

Like you can imagine flatland with little square people. then you imagine that flatland is only one sheet in a post it, with other flat lands directly above and below it. In a 3D view there could be cube people, and in a single 2D plane they look like square people.

Now push that thought experiment out to a 4-D world, where our 3D universe is only one of the above sheets, with other universe right ‘above’ and ‘below’ (ana & katana) us. And imagine there are living being that live in that 4D world. Like a cube person would be made of many square people each in their flat plane; thus could a 4D being exist in a 3D world as a ‘projection’ that is only part of themselves. These 4D beings live in multiple universe (of our 3d universes of course) concurrently, so to survive they need to see and interact with each of the 3D universe they move through, as a results such a creature would have a huge amount of eyes.

Thus we speculate that a 4D being (4 spatial dimensions , not 3D+time) would have lots of eyes, each capable of observing a single universe at a time, but would also be able to move and push many of their eyes at once into a single 3D world. ;

but in this case I’d like to point out that we have technology to use lasers to create plasma balls far away, and we can modulate that plasma ball to make noise. I haven’t seen any pubic technology of this which can cause complete speech or music from the glowing ball in the distance but that is something they were working on and not something I think they would make public right away

5)

I wrote this last time I saw one of these multieye images; Just what a 4-dimensional creature would look like pushing all it’s eyes into our single 3-D world at once.

Like you can imagine flatland with little square people. then you imagine that flatland is only one sheet in a post it, with other flat lands directly above and below it. In a 3D view there could be cube people, and in a single 2D plane they look like square people.

Now push that thought experiment out to a 4-D world, where our 3D universe is only one of the above sheets, with other universe right ‘above’ and ‘below’ (ana & katana) us. And imagine there are living being that live in that 4D world. Like a cube person would be made of many square people each in their flat plane; thus could a 4D being exist in a 3D world as a ‘projection’ that is only part of themselves. These 4D beings live in multiple universe (of our 3d universes of course) concurrently, so to survive they need to see and interact with each of the 3D universe they move through, as a results such a creature would have a huge amount of eyes.

Thus we speculate that a 4D being (4 spatial dimensions , not 3D+time) would have lots of eyes, each capable of observing a single universe at a time, but would also be able to move and push many of their eyes at once into a single 3D world. ;

but in this case I’d like to point out that we have technology to use lasers to create plasma balls far away, and we can modulate that plasma ball to make noise. I haven’t seen any pubic technology of this which can cause complete speech or music from the glowing ball in the distance but that is something they were working on and not something I think they would make public right away

6) I already talked about how a 4D being exists in many 3D universes and has the capacity to move parts into one, so that they could have multiple eyes, or hands.

We mentioned that the 3D slice of the 4D metabody could be interpreted differently across the diffierent 3D plains. {imagine you have a bound flatland in 2D, if you stacked that universe with many similar ones you would end with a small cube. Now we take as a given that the Circle guy in flatland is a sphere person in the cube we just made. Then we take a slice from a different point of view and angle of the cube and create our own flatland. We postulate that this universe also exists and it does so bound with the original one. Where when Sphere person moves they do so in all stacked plains of every angle and orientation. A circle is created but the surroundings are much changed. If we apply a self similarity to the circle and make him more complicated then there could be an angled slice that presents the sphereoid person as appearing square or oval.}
So what if a different 3D slice of the 4D being that we are each made out of (in this thought experiment) could result in you resembling an elephant or eagle. Could you bring forth and present your face as that of an animal, or a 3 or 4 headed being with multiple animals faces at the same time?

7)

. Imagine Bob in flat land, and that flat land is a real place with active 2D life, and that that flat plane is just one ‘slice’ somewhere out of our own universe. There may be an infinite other flatlands, but not all will have life; just like there are infinite ‘planes’ of 2D sheets that make up our universe. Or if flat land was one post it, there are a stack of post its that make a block. Bob may be a square in flat land but he could be just one layer in a cube (or stately tetrahedron) that is in the post it block. Then you might also take any other slice at other angles to see another ‘flatland’ made out of the postit cube. Then that our own universe is similar in the sense that, depending what plane you are looking from, we have 2 other 3D universe pressed right next to us in a 4D (4 spatial dimensions, time is not involved right here) cube.

These things are so close, just past or at the liimt of impossibility. Less than the plank length away.

I have more fun ideas about this and how living beings that are native to this 4D world would be and how they might interact with our own universe, like the story of the 3D creature moving through 2D space in flatland

And I have another idea about how there might be more of these collections of universes across multiple dimensions that are out of scale to our own that may run in an infinite ‘turltes all the way down’ style, where the action of a universe actually dictates what happens to it once that universe grows old and dies and how life may be able to influence the fate of a universe which actually impacts a field which interacts with other fields that are themselves created from universes within them, and how that can interact to influence the larger universe which the field is only the most infinitesimal part of

8) if we could have a Y axis for time made of parallel universes like ours stacked at right angles to our 3d world, which has a Z axis where each interval is a separate ‘particle’ or lowest level of thing {TSA}. Could we then have an infinite (or nearly so) amount of our 3D universes stacked into a 4d hyperspace universe, where depending on how you look at something you can see that thing as displayed across any multiverses? But to do that I need a way to represent our 3D universe as a flat 2D shape and then a way to represent that as a linear 1D line. If your klein bottle approximation can be used to represent higher dimensions via the holograph idea of emergent existence then could we stack a bunch of these ‘bottles’ next to /on top of each other?

This was a puzzling thing, and I didn’t see any reference to anyone else talking about it online right away but I think this is pretty simple once you hear it.

First though we’re going to do a quick thought experiment to get in the mood.

Let’s use Sam, the square from flat land. As it often discussed when talking about flat land, we can see inside Sam’s body and inside rooms which are closed and locked. Now that may be the case but we have to remember that part of the reason Sam can’t see inside his friends and walls is that the light which operates in flat land doesn’t penetrate things the same way our light can be blocked by a parasol or a roof. So when we look at flat land, we should only be seeing things illuminated which are actually illuminated in Sam’s world. For the same reason that it is dark inside your stomach, it is also dark inside of Sam.

So if we look at Sam in his flatland we can see that when we look towards his insides we find it is all dark. Now we can shine a light on Sam from our dimension and light up his insides. Think that the light Sam can see must be on the same plane. Light which bounces out of that plane is not visible to Sam. If he even uses light at all to sense things.

So if we illuminate Sam from the inside they can see that their insides are brighter if they happen to be canulated. And unless the flashlight we shine is only directly within his insides there will be photons that hit things outside of same which will gain and expel photos in all directions.

This means the objects, including Sam, which get light shined on them will heat up and also glow at some level, light a light was shining on them. If Sam were to record a video inside a dark box then they would later see the inside of the box glowing.

So in Sam’s world when someone from a 3D universe shines a flashlight on their car, the car will glow with light from there, but because that light is from a higher dimension it will mostly bounce out of that plane and very little will reflect into the 2D plane where Sam lives. Alternatively is Sam does not use light as we know it but a currently light that cannot exist in more than 2 dimensions (and not just using a cross section of the same light as is in our universe) then our light might still raise the energy level of things and cause them to appear to glow but the light won’t reflect on anything.

Now obviously we just lift this layer one dimension up and where you have a 4 Spatial-Dimensional creature which is viewing in part one of our universes then they are able to see inside of the things we cannot. If, as previously postulated, they have a collection of 3-D image receptors (like we have 2-D retnias) which are wrapped into 4sDs (like a hypersphere made of many eyeballs as we know it) and they use the same photons for illumination that we use then they should be blind to the insides of things unless they have a way to cast a light source from 4sDs so that they can light up something here completely, inside and out (while heating it).

The other idea would be that the 4sD-al light is inherently different from the photos that we use and the light without illumination that results from a 4sD-al being shining this light on us would appear like the object was brightly lit while not shining light onto the things around it, like on the ocean or a ship or any specific thing that someone wants to look at closely.

Matter is energy. Some energy may be outside of our full understanding. The bonds that bind sub atomic parts together and bear the mass are just vibrations. Our universe is a series of vibrations at different scales.

A tone can produce a standing wave. The standing wave can entrain things around it, like the ruben’s flame experiment where you see sound waves in fire. A noise produced by a person will vibrate parts of the body. At specific positions these sounds can transmit further throughout the body or create different resonance.

When electric powers something it is the electric field that carries the charge. In AC power the electronics do something like a dance where they vibrate back and forth while moving forward, but the vibration speed is much faster than the overall movement. The direction of the flow of energy stays the same even if the electrons are vibrating in one direction or the other.

Now imagine a molecule that can have two different configurations and the configuration change can happen under specific circumstances which can be induced from the outside. Let’s further imagine that when this configuration change from state to state happens that it creates a positive feedback loop that self induces the change to continue. Further, as this molecular changes back and forth between the two states it could be considered to be vibrating, if only for epistolary reasons. And this vibration can cause other molecules which are nearby to vibrate.

Let us speculate that this vibration can create a field. If the vibration is coming from all the cells in the body then we can consider them the battery and also the wires leading to the lightblub. For this we’re going to assume that there is a mental switch you can flip in your brain that allows this energy to flow. When you turn on your field, the energy flows from all around you and into your brain.

When we look at a 2D Ruben’s flame with noise playing on it we can find some tones that produce a standing wave where visible flame nodes and anti nodes can be seen and also heard (when standing in that spot). Playing music on this device we see that many noises show the flames traveling inward to the center of the device. While noises the have an “M” sound transverse outward across the manifold.

It may be that the noise you produce is not the same sound that translates through the materials of your body. So if you have a target noise that you’ve heard and you want to tune into that vibration you might have to aim a bit lower and try to generate your noise via octave stacking.

So, if you use the Mmmmm noise in your resonate tuning perhaps you can jumpstart a vibration in some mystery molecule within all or many of the cells in your body, and that by doing thing a field of some sort can emanate from those cells and flow into your brain, where some organ or organ system is facilitating the ‘flow’ of this energy like you would facilitation a light with flowing electrical fields by flipping a switch.

Alt.

We are always moving in the sense that time-space is always moving. The movements we go through exist in the past in time-space. If we were living in a computer simulation like a program with debug mode and cheat codes then a specific movement over time, or dance, combine with a specific rhythm or sound could activate some prior unknown access.

This is an unedited, stream of thought excerpt from an email which will be riddled with typos.

“on the basis of being able to use my imagination to understand something beyond the scope of the normally viewed world, I am trying to work out what it means to move on the W axis “While the three common axes are generally referred to as the x, y, and z axes, the fourth falls on the w axis. The directions that objects move along in that dimension are generally called ana and kata. These terms were coined by Charles Hinton, ” and I’ve gotten down this path of thinking that a movement ‘inward’ and ‘outward’ are the best idaes of a direction orthagonal to the 3rd dimension. this would mean we have many ‘world’ “stacked” inside and outside of eachtoehr, and that if one were to do something they might be able to use that 4th direction to move and thus skip through worlds or skip around places in our world. I had something like a vision of this plane and I’ve been trying to understand my experience on these basises. laboring under the ‘step up similarities’ of moving between 2D and 3D I think I’ve got an idea of this 4D thing. that while we can see 3d things on our 2d retneas and process them into a 3d image, if you were to be in a 4d space you would not ‘see’ the 2d space in 3d, but you would ‘experience’ the 3d representation of the 4d world. slightly different but like the space itself expanding causing galactic redshift instead of relative motion it may be a small difference that makes the understanding possible. Goal here is to one day work harder on trying to get a glimpse of this space, probably via induction, and hopefully the training of thought will allow a brain to better process the happenings of such a thing”

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I wonder if I ever mentioned that experience I had during this years drop out prom ride for pedalpalooza with some mushies and a tab I had been thinking a lot at athat time about how one might interact with a higher dimension environment and or entities and so at the party I saw down in the grass and closed my eyes and I felt like I was in the mists of somewhere else, it reminded me a lot fo the 3d mandelbrot visualization I saw online in college except it was more like being inside of the thing, what curing mass stayed around me resembled that which flet (can’t call it seen) to also be way in front of me, and all around except like hollow in the middle, imagine a daisy flower outline, then make that outline into a tube, so it’s like a lot of small part tubes all tied together, then putyouself against a wall on the inside of the tub in a back hollow and then fractialze all the surrounding walls with the impression that hey themselves were like tube openings. I argued to myself at a time later that if 4d beings exist then their 4d eyes get info in 3d the way our eyes get info in 2d, then their brain of the thing processes the data adn imagines a 4d thing to fit its own 4d world, just the way our brains do, but then as you don’t see 3d you experience it, their eyes are both experiencing (what may be two different but simialr) 3d worlds to get the 4d image. or course with more eye they would be able to see into more 3d expereinces. So a being that lives in 4d which has many eyes is actually able to view many different 3d worlds at the same time. Perhaps only a very simple or plain person could even be in the same place in multiple worlds (adding some multiverse probability mapping here).

When the above became too intense for me, which was like 10 seconds maybe I had to bail on it. And I felt super fucking charged, full of power juice, and really alive, it was a blast.

Morale of this story is that focus is the key, we need to practice our abilty to keep focuson something in the face of distractions. That time I told you about where it seemed like I passed through a weird portal while half asleep only happened because I kept my focus on the alive colors and ignored the dead colors that I saw. I had a vision of a large pine tree after that and I kept that focus as my mind starting doing a series of weird ‘movements’ and then BAM it was like I was somewhere else for just a second. Mental focus seems to be something, the lucciddreaming subreddit has some cool stuff but I have no time for it

breakthrough today on what a 4 dimensional being would be like, what I was missing was that the extra dimension we are adding to their biological construction is in the 4th dimension, it sounds so obvious but it came to me in the shower after a long time of thinking about this, it sovles so many questions

Think of us, we have corneas that light passes through to get to the retinas where the light is sensed. Both these objects are 2-d objects, folded into 3-dimensions (the spherical eye ball).

Now think of flatlander Steve, to live in a perfectly flat 2-dimensional world steve only needs to see what is in his world, it is not evolutionary favorable to expend energy to evolve and maintain organs that see a 3rd dimension here because Steve can’t interact with it and it’s a waste of energy. Now Steve needs to see in his own world, light coming from other plains is extraneous and unnecessary if not downright unhelpful for Steve to be seeing or understanding. To deal with this Steve has eyes that are 2-dimensional, like little circles with a tiny hole in front. Only light that comes through the hole and lands on the back is recognized in Steve’s brain. Now if Steve were to somehow bend him head upwards into a 3rd dimension he might not be able to understand what he was seeing, because the 2D slices of our or anther 3D world don’t make sense to him. He would have to focus on remembering the different images then ‘stitch’ them together in his memory to get a 3D view. This action itself would likely need some sort of impetus from a 3rd dimension to push him or his head or his eyes ‘up’ or ‘down’ which are terms Steve have no familiarity about in his day to day life.

When you compare Steve’s eyes to our they aren’t too dissimilar; the eye different is mostly another dimension added to it. Except it’s the dimension that makes a difference in the daily survival of the now 3-D being. Our brains can use one eye to represent the 3D world and 2 eyes to focus more clearly on parts of the 3D world.

Now expand this into the next dimension. The 4D being has eyes that are 3D receptors and 3D pupils, wrapped into a 4D shape. In this case, the 4th dimension is a fourth spatial dimension with directions called ‘ana’ and ‘katana’. These directions are orthogonal to our dimension, or at ‘right angles’ similar to how the 3D world and the 2D world are separated by a dimension at right angles to the 2D world. Right now I think these two directions are directly ‘outside’ and ‘inside’ of our own, like a universe of nesting dolls.

Let us imagine how a person or even a sphere could enter into flatland at any location they wanted, but were always a fixed relationship to that universe. The flatlander universe if before them, they can push their finger or spherical body into the flatland and intersect it. To the eyes of Steve this circle being appeared very small then in an unbelievable quickness because very large.

Though they can pass through flatland, or to the experience of Steve appear and disappear in it, they can’t get bigger or smaller, they have a fixed size in all dimensions the way we do. Their 4D bodies might extend through multiple 3D universes are the same time, but they would be in roughly the same location within them when they were, and by moving through the 4th dimension, which would be the one evolutionary favorable for a 4D being to be able to move through, they could appear or disappear at any location in a 3D universe

Well the 2D retinas extend ana and katana into the 4th dimension, not our third dimension as that wouldn’t be helpful. The 4D being exists through multiple 3D planes concurrently and they need to be able to ‘see’ there as well. Like we need to navigate 3 dimensions they need to do so in 4. there is the question of how time translates into a higher dimension and if they are the same or vastly different.

When a 4D being that can enter a 3D world choses to do so they can extended many of the same body part into the same 4D layer, appeared as a multi armed or multi eyed being

4-Dimensional beings could have 3-dimensional eye receptors, except the 3-d dimension here is our 4th dimension, explanation in comments

the 4-d brain then gathers all the inputs from the 3-D eyes and understands them as a 4D image. Now if a being wanted to be able to see very well all around them they could evolve multiple eyes to see a great number of different nearby 3-Ds which I imagine can only be dealth with one 3D world at a time, like yo coudlnt’ see past one universe into another you would need 2 eyes, or rather an eye that extended multiple layers of universes. Could such a being present all their eyes into one 3D version of themselves, like a preson could extend multiple fingers into flat land that would look likek multiple shpere people

this is a great video that I think you would enjoy  khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd6CQCbk2ro it’s about consiousness and evolution and the universe, lots of fun things to think about

on waking dreams or active imagination, take with some large grains of salt but also fun to the think about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRVlWEwmbfQ ; though to be fair, his talking about waiting to see what developes then holding on to the item/image until it changes on it’s own is very very similar to my description of that time I had that ‘dream’ I told you about where it seemed like I transported mentally to somewhere else and heard, as clear as anything, the words “Test him again” which sounded so real that it woke me up. In that instance the words were spoken in a womans voice and I had a fleeting vision of what seems to be some sort of control center. A new world with unlimited possibilities sounds like tapping into the total experience purpose of life talked about in the video one layer up

another idea I had in the shower, you have to watch that above video with the 2 guys to see what he has to say about the meaning of life then you can incorporate that into this extrapolation of Abotts’ Flatland as applied to our own lives and a possible super being of yourself that if you could get in contact with might be able to do incredible things ‘Of course as you gain in complexity from a simple sphere a cross section from a different angle or plane in the 3rd dimension may no longer resemble the 2D shape, so I hereby speculate that a self-similarity as often seen in fractals can be used to increase the complexity. Due to this we can extrapolate to a 4th spatial dimension where we, 3D being, can be sliced in angles not along the ‘original’ plane and still end up with a good enough ‘cross section’ to make a being. With other 4D objects that are all self contained existing in all of our 3 dimension and a 4th one which encompasses the scale just ‘above’ and ‘below’ ours but is more analogous to inside and outside.
A quick side note, if the 4d plains are stacked like we would imagine a bunch of 2D layers would have to be stacked to provide a 3D space big enough to hold a sphere, then there are an infinite number of 3D layers in 4D just like there are an (almost?) infinite number of 2D layers in the universe, and that you can slice them in any direction.
To bring that in, if flatland is simply a 2D slice of a 3D map, there might be more 3D things moving in and around, like a sea full of neutrally buoyant objects that can move at will in all directions, and that if you take a slice in any given direction you are going to get a 2D plane, now here I say what if all those 2D slices could create their own *Flatland* and in that Flatland universe where everything is 2D, all the ‘people’ (who we are here referencing as spheres) think and move on their own and imagine a rich and full universe, but from the higher dimension there is a supersphere that thinks and moves on it’s own through the 3D area, and every single slice in 2D from any angle and at any direction would result in a slice of that shpere, big or small, being a part in that layer’s universe. They might start small, grow to a bigger sphere person, then shrink away; while in another layer they are still small and getting bigger; some they only touch briefly, some fully, all see the same small circle grow and disappear.

If we take the idea that the meaning of life is to experience every reality possible then could we as 3D beings that we think ourselves to be actually be a 4D metal person who moves on their own? Could  a ‘time’ difference between layers mean that we can live entire lives, the choices we make in that reporting back to the metaperson who can use that sensory information to help them in direction?

Could we be on a branching ‘tree’ of life that expands ever outward and has connections though a higher dimension to make new people by mixing old ones.

If the slices of reality are at the limit of impossibility then let’s use the plank length to set the size of each layer of universe. We are, in this post, speculating that the layers could be ‘stacked’ one ‘on top (see inside)’ of eachother, then as the size of things is limited we could assume that there are not an infinate number of versions of us, but that there are a really really big amount.
A 6 foot tall person would have  about 1.131648154E+35 Planck lengths to them as 2D slices in a single plain. If we are speculating that every angle of attack from every surrounding position would be used to take a ‘slice’ then the number much higher. That is to speculate that due to self symmetry of whatever shape the 4D metaperson is, 3D slices could be taken at every possible angle and spot to create a huge number of 3D universes, all connected, that interact in a higher dimension.  ‘